• Ask God, Part Deux

    Updated: 2010-08-31 19:04:04
    We’ll be recording a podcast tonight, and we’ll be recording another segment of our “Ask God” segment. So if you have any questions for the big bearded diety in the sky, hurry up and ask them before 8pm tonight, or you’ll miss your chance to have the answers you were looking for!

  • TGA site update

    Updated: 2010-08-31 16:40:07
    Just to let you guys know, we’re currently doing a switchover to a new server. We’re hoping everything goes as smooth as silk, but last time we did something like this, TGA lost a whole bunch of shows and it was a complete disaster. So in the next few days , if you can’t download [...]

  • Now You Know – 8/31/2010 Atheist Cartoon

    Updated: 2010-08-31 16:30:33
    About Christian Quotes Call to Authors Images Guidelines and How-To Guidelines Overview What’s in it for me Support . S.N.D Contact Us Headlines Blogosphere Islam Headlines LGBT Headlines Buzz Headlines Science Headlines Stay Connected Latest Posts in RSS Aggregators Americas Announcements Asia Australia Brian Magee Christopher Hitchens Columnists Comics Connections Depravity Economy Europe Events Evolution vs . Creationism ID Faith Healing Featured Block Film and TV Glenn Beck Guest Commentary Humor In Brief In the Schools India Pakistan Intolerance Bigotry James Dobson Liam Fox Luis Granados Mailbag Middle East Near-Death Experiences New Age Nonsense News Paliban Watch Pat Robertson Personalities Philosophy Press Releases Regions Religion Religion Courts Religion Culture Religion

  • Are Atheists Charitable?

    Updated: 2010-08-31 15:17:43
     Powered by Max Banner Ads Of course atheists are charitable. That is a pretty silly question. We can point to the fact that atheist billionaires have donated half their fortunes to charity and have encouraged other billionaires to do the same. The fact is that most atheists don’t donate in the name of atheism. We just [...]

  • Humanist “chaplain” explains involvement in “interfaith” dialogue

    Updated: 2010-08-31 14:51:44
    The issue over representation in the National Interfaith Week is not whether humanism is or is not a religion, it is whether people with different beliefs are enabled to get to know one another and live well together. One of the principal aims of the 2009 National Interfaith Week was “to increase understanding between people [...]

  • Agnoticism

    Updated: 2010-08-31 12:34:00
    Gary Gutting responds to shaunphilly's query, saying, Of course, you can use the terms the way you think best. But your way of putting things ignores two importantly different ways of not believing that God exists. You might not believe in the sense t...

  • literary

    Updated: 2010-08-31 10:44:00
    like it? click it!embiggenalternate title: the paparazzi nabs a famous playwright.at erato used bookstore in monastiraki, athens, greece.©2010 helen sotiriadiscopyright © 2010 toomanytribbles. this feed is for personal non-commercial use only. mirr...

  • xkcd: exoplanets

    Updated: 2010-08-31 10:35:00
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  • Is Michael Stopa a Bigot?

    Updated: 2010-08-31 10:20:00
    Home About Comment Policy Blogroll Store Mobile Disclosure Contact Me skip to main skip to sidebar August 31, 2010 Is Michael Stopa a Bigot Labels : Bigotry Is Michael Stopa a Bigot 2010-08-31T05:20:00-05:00 vjack Bigotry| Comments Thanks to Atheist Ethicist for bringing this one to my attention . According to The Sun Chronicle Michael Stopa , a Republican running for the 3rd district of Massachusetts who also happens to be a physicist employed by Harvard , has managed to convince himself that President Obama is an atheist . But that really isn't the story . The story is that Stopa was quoted as : saying I have no specific evidence , but I think he's sympathetic to anybody who is opposed to America and American . values As Alonzo Fyfe points out , this makes it sound an awful lot like

  • narrow band

    Updated: 2010-08-31 02:10:00
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  • asteroid discovery from 1980 – 2010

    Updated: 2010-08-31 01:52:00
    it looks awfully crowded up there...copyright © 2010 toomanytribbles. this feed is for personal non-commercial use only. mirrored at wordpress

  • The Four R’s – 8/30/2010 Atheist Cartoon

    Updated: 2010-08-30 22:48:39
    About Christian Quotes Call to Authors Images Guidelines and How-To Guidelines Overview What’s in it for me Support . S.N.D Contact Us Headlines Blogosphere Islam Headlines LGBT Headlines Buzz Headlines Science Headlines Stay Connected Latest Posts in RSS Aggregators Americas Announcements Asia Australia Brian Magee Christopher Hitchens Columnists Comics Connections Depravity Economy Europe Events Evolution vs . Creationism ID Faith Healing Featured Block Film and TV Glenn Beck Guest Commentary Humor In Brief In the Schools India Pakistan Intolerance Bigotry James Dobson Liam Fox Luis Granados Mailbag Middle East Near-Death Experiences New Age Nonsense News Paliban Watch Pat Robertson Personalities Philosophy Press Releases Regions Religion Religion Courts Religion Culture Religion

  • nic marks: the happy planet index

    Updated: 2010-08-30 22:44:00
    as i listened to this talk, i was hurled back to a time when i was not only hopeful, but genuinely excited to see what the future would bring -- what we would find out, what we'd achieve.while heroes struggle to unlock the mysteries that can not only s...

  • Reflection And Moral Behavior

    Updated: 2010-08-30 17:58:58
    In the video below (via Pete Mandik), philosophers Josh Knobe and Eric Schwitzgebel discuss the extent to which thinking about morality can make them behave more morally by measuring whether ethics professors, who presumably think about morality the most often and the most systematically, are any more consistently moral or at least act more consistently [...]

  • If It Makes You Feel Better...

    Updated: 2010-08-30 10:27:00
    . Home About Comment Policy Blogroll Store Mobile Disclosure Contact Me skip to main skip to sidebar August 30, 2010 If It Makes You Feel Better . Labels : Prayer If It Makes You Feel Better . 2010-08-30T05:27:00-05:00 vjack Prayer| Comments When Christopher Hitchens is asked by Anderson Cooper in this interview whether he tells people not to pray for him , he responds that he does . not If it makes you feel better , you have my . blessing That is an interesting perspective . Of course , nobody is going to stop those who want to pray from doing so . Asking someone not to pray for you seems unlikely to change their behavior precisely because the prayer is really for them and not for you . On the other hand , it seems like this might be a brief teachable moment to point out that one does not

  • Idiot of the Week: South Carolina Gas Station Owner

    Updated: 2010-08-28 11:14:00
    : Home About Comment Policy Blogroll Store Mobile Disclosure Contact Me skip to main skip to sidebar August 28, 2010 Idiot of the Week : South Carolina Gas Station Owner Labels : Bigotry Idiot of the Week Idiot of the Week : South Carolina Gas Station Owner 2010-08-28T06:14:00-05:00 vjack Bigotry|Idiot of the Week| Comments Technically , this may not count as an idiot of the week because it has apparently been happening for the past year and not simply this week . But I found out about it this week , so there you . go The owner of a South Carolina gas station has set his pumps so that the following message appears whenever people use : them One nation under god and if you don't like it . Leave What a great American Believe like I do , or get the hell out . The video below will explain how

  • I Get Christian Email

    Updated: 2010-08-27 14:14:00
    Home About Comment Policy Blogroll Store Mobile Disclosure Contact Me skip to main skip to sidebar August 27, 2010 I Get Christian Email Labels : Christianity I Get Christian Email 2010-08-27T09:14:00-05:00 vjack Christianity| Comments I wasn't planning to post today . Work has been unexpectedly busy , and I have a number of deadlines approaching quickly , one of which is later today . But I received an important email from someone calling herself Serena that I need to share with you . I know it is important because the title was IMPORTANT . Naturally , that caught my eye . I have reproduced the email below : verbatim God is the best thing that has happend to me . If you do not belive in him , you WILL be eternally damned . This website is NOT acceptable . HE created you to love and live

  • More Thoughts on Secular Community Resource Centers

    Updated: 2010-08-26 10:27:00
    Home About Comment Policy Blogroll Store Mobile Disclosure Contact Me skip to main skip to sidebar August 26, 2010 More Thoughts on Secular Community Resource Centers Labels : Atheist Movement More Thoughts on Secular Community Resource Centers 2010-08-26T05:27:00-05:00 vjack Atheist Movement| Comments The thing about ideas is that it is almost always easier to shoot down those of others down than to offer one's own . Yes , secular community resource centers are idealistic , would require resources most of us lack , and may face unique challenges in the very locations where they are most needed . But it seems to me that we are making a mistake by giving up simply because it sounds difficult . If we imagine a secular community resource center as an eventual goal and agree that there are

  • Words of Wisdom: Barry Goldwater

    Updated: 2010-08-25 11:44:00
    : Home About Comment Policy Blogroll Store Mobile Disclosure Contact Me skip to main skip to sidebar August 25, 2010 Words of Wisdom : Barry Goldwater Labels : Words of Wisdom Words of Wisdom : Barry Goldwater 2010-08-25T06:44:00-05:00 vjack Words of Wisdom| Comments There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious beliefs . There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than Jesus Christ , or God , or Allah , or whatever one calls this supreme being . The religious factions that are growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with wisdom . They are trying to force government leaders into following their position 100 percent . If you disagree with these religious groups on a particular moral issue , they complain , they threaten you

  • The Good Atheist Podcast: Bonus Show 60

    Updated: 2010-08-25 03:27:50
    A few days ago, I was revisited by some Jehovah Witnesses, and on this week’s episode, I talk about this experience, and we’ll also be talking a lot about life, death and nihilism thanks to a great question by a supporting patron. Remember, if you are planning on becoming a patron but haven’t gotten around [...]

  • Why Some Atheists Are Offended By Prayer

    Updated: 2010-08-24 10:35:00
    Home About Comment Policy Blogroll Store Mobile Disclosure Contact Me skip to main skip to sidebar August 24, 2010 Why Some Atheists Are Offended By Prayer Labels : Atheism Prayer Why Some Atheists Are Offended By Prayer 2010-08-24T05:35:00-05:00 vjack Atheism|Prayer| Comments Dan Gilgoff , Co-Editor of CNN's Belief Blog , does not appear to have a high opinion of atheists . In a recent post he complains that hordes of atheists have been leaving comments on a post from a Catholic priest suggesting that Christians should pray for Christopher . Hitchens Far from being touched by the priest's gesture , the atheists are mostly . offended Mr . Gilgoff really doesn't get it , does he Let me see if I can explain what is happening here to anyone else who might be as confused as Mr . Gilgoff seems

  • Some Biblical Prophecies Have Come True

    Updated: 2010-08-22 13:03:00
    Home About Comment Policy Blogroll Store Mobile Disclosure Contact Me skip to main skip to sidebar August 22, 2010 Some Biblical Prophecies Have Come True Labels : Bible Some Biblical Prophecies Have Come True 2010-08-22T08:03:00-05:00 vjack Bible| Comments Atheists do not believe that the Christian bible or any other holy books are sacred in any way . We may appreciate other aspects of such texts , but we do not buy the notion that they are divinely inspired in any way . And yet it would be a mistake for atheists to dismiss the entirety of the Christian bible as nonsense . Not only are there some aesthetically pleasing passages , but some of the prophecies have turned out to be true whether we like to admit it or not . Chatpilot , the former Pentecostal evangelist who now writes the God

  • Idiot of the Week: Dr. Laura Schlessinger

    Updated: 2010-08-21 12:15:00
    : . Home About Comment Policy Blogroll Store Mobile Disclosure Contact Me skip to main skip to sidebar August 21, 2010 Idiot of the Week : Dr . Laura Schlessinger Labels : Idiot of the Week Idiot of the Week : Dr . Laura Schlessinger 2010-08-21T07:15:00-05:00 vjack Idiot of the Week| Comments This may come as a bit of a surprise , but I am not honoring Schlessinger for saying nigger 11 times on her radio show Sure , that wasn't a bright move on her part , but like others have documented Schlessinger has earned a reputation for bigotry . That she might have some issues with race too is not all that shocking . No , I find her deserving of Idiot of the Week status for statements she made on Larry King after she resigned about how her First Amendment rights were being violated because people

  • The Good Atheist Podcast: Episode 103

    Updated: 2010-08-21 01:18:19
    We promised you a mailbag, and we delivered a big one! On this week’s show, Ryan and I talk about the recent shit-storm of awesome that happened when Phil Plait delivered his “Don’t be a Dick” speech at TAM 8, and of course answer your questions this month. Don’t miss it!

  • Lots of People Believe Dumb Things

    Updated: 2010-08-20 12:42:00
    Home About Comment Policy Blogroll Store Mobile Disclosure Contact Me skip to main skip to sidebar August 20, 2010 Lots of People Believe Dumb Things Labels : Science Lots of People Believe Dumb Things 2010-08-20T07:42:00-05:00 vjack Science| Comments According to a new poll by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press , 41 of Americans expect Jesus to come back by 2050. Should we celebrate that it is only 41 Maybe we should be asking ourselves how many of the politicians who run this country for their corporate masters share this belief . Not surprisingly , the number jumps to 58 among White evangelicals and is higher in the South than in other . regions Oh , and 65 of those surveyed expect religion to be as important in 40 years as it is now . H T to CNN's Belief Blog

  • Same-Sex Marriage and Atheist Community

    Updated: 2010-08-19 10:55:00
    Home About Comment Policy Blogroll Store Mobile Disclosure Contact Me skip to main skip to sidebar August 19, 2010 Same-Sex Marriage and Atheist Community Labels : Atheist Movement Same-Sex Marriage and Atheist Community 2010-08-19T05:55:00-05:00 vjack Atheist Movement| Comments In a recent post on the same-sex marriage issue and California's Proposition 8, Daylight Atheism : wrote the more places that same-sex marriage moves into the mainstream , the more it will become familiar and accepted . More and more , people are getting the chance to see for themselves that gay and lesbian couples are normal human beings , deserving of the same rights as everyone else , and religious prejudice is weakening . Every fight we win sets the stage for further victories , and brings us ever closer to the

  • Will Anti-Islam Sentiment Help or Hurt Church-State Separation?

    Updated: 2010-08-18 10:27:00
    Home About Comment Policy Blogroll Store Mobile Disclosure Contact Me skip to main skip to sidebar August 18, 2010 Will Anti-Islam Sentiment Help or Hurt Church-State Separation Labels : Church and State Islam Will Anti-Islam Sentiment Help or Hurt Church-State Separation 2010-08-18T05:27:00-05:00 vjack Church and State|Islam| Comments Controversy over mosques has not been limited to the Cordoba Initiative's proposal to build an Islamic center in Manhattan . Writing about the growing anti-Islam sentiment in the United States , Laurie Goodstein The New York Times : wrote These local skirmishes make clear that there is now widespread debate about whether the best way to uphold America’s democratic values is to allow Muslims the same religious freedom enjoyed by other Americans , or to pull

  • Promoting Atheism One Blog at a Time

    Updated: 2010-08-17 10:44:00
    Home About Comment Policy Blogroll Store Mobile Disclosure Contact Me skip to main skip to sidebar August 17, 2010 Promoting Atheism One Blog at a Time Labels : Atheist Movement Blogging Promoting Atheism Promoting Atheism One Blog at a Time 2010-08-17T05:44:00-05:00 vjack Atheist Movement|Blogging|Promoting Atheism| Comments While commenting on a new atheist blog , Flying Kites I found myself thinking once again about the importance of atheists helping each other . The author had contacted me and asked if I'd be willing to visit the new blog and offer any feedback . Time permitting , I'm always happy to do this . In this post , I'd like to address the simply but intriguing question of . why I have no illusions about my place in the atheist blogosphere . I am somewhere in the second tier ,

  • The Good Atheist Podcast: Bonus Show 59

    Updated: 2010-08-17 02:09:05
    This week, Ryan and I talk about inspiration, why atheism isn’t weaksauce agnosticism, and why we’re different from crazy religious nutbags begging for money! Don’t miss out. If you’re a fan of the regular free show and want to help continue to make this project possible, consider becoming a patron for the low price of just [...]

  • Does Opposing Religion Entail Anti-Semitism?

    Updated: 2010-08-16 10:29:00
    Home About Comment Policy Blogroll Store Mobile Disclosure Contact Me skip to main skip to sidebar August 16, 2010 Does Opposing Religion Entail Anti-Semitism Labels : Religion Does Opposing Religion Entail Anti-Semitism 2010-08-16T05:29:00-05:00 vjack Religion| Comments I suppose it would be fair to say that opposing organized religion and religious belief for their irrationality and vast destructive potential makes me anti-religion . I suspect that humanity would be better off without religion of any sort . You see , I regard all religions as equally false . Again , it would probably be fair to characterize me as anti-religion . And if I oppose all religions , would that not necessarily mean that I am anti-Islam , anti-Christianity , anti-Judaism , and the like Does this not mean that I

  • Idiot of the Week Twofor: Billy Graham and Pat Robertson

    Updated: 2010-08-14 18:22:00
    : Home About Comment Policy Blogroll Store Mobile Disclosure Contact Me skip to main skip to sidebar August 14, 2010 Idiot of the Week Twofor : Billy Graham and Pat Robertson Labels : Bigotry Idiot of the Week Idiot of the Week Twofor : Billy Graham and Pat Robertson 2010-08-14T13:22:00-05:00 vjack Bigotry|Idiot of the Week| Comments Time for Idiot of the Week . I have many weeks where I have a difficult time deciding who to honor in this series , but I had such a tie this week that I decided to pick both . Yep , you're getting two for one here . Pat Robertson We'll start with Pat Robertson , a real Christian who is no stranger to idiocy this is at least the third time he has been recognized for it here Pat was recently contacted by a Christian seeking advice about her atheist boyfriend .

  • I've Never Seen an FFRF Billboard I Didn't Like...Until Now

    Updated: 2010-08-14 11:42:00
    . Home About Comment Policy Blogroll Store Mobile Disclosure Contact Me skip to main skip to sidebar August 14, 2010 I've Never Seen an FFRF Billboard I Didn't Like . Until Now Labels : Promoting Atheism I've Never Seen an FFRF Billboard I Didn't Like . Until Now 2010-08-14T06:42:00-05:00 vjack Promoting Atheism| Comments I've been happy to support the Freedom From Religion Foundation with my membership and the publicity I try to bring to their efforts here . I think they are one of the few organizations most atheists in the U.S . should support , and nothing I am about to say changes that it any . way I have liked every one of the billboard designs developed by the FFRF and hope I will live long enough to see one here in Mississippi . Having said that , I'm not particularly crazy about

  • Christian Hypocrisy: Only My Beliefs Are Sacred

    Updated: 2010-08-12 11:04:00
    : Home About Comment Policy Blogroll Store Mobile Disclosure Contact Me skip to main skip to sidebar August 12, 2010 Christian Hypocrisy : Only My Beliefs Are Sacred Labels : Hypocrisy Christian Hypocrisy : Only My Beliefs Are Sacred 2010-08-12T06:04:00-05:00 vjack Hypocrisy| Comments If there is one thing many fundamentalist Christians are known for , it is their blatant hypocrisy . I have heard liberal Christians and even some moderates say that they believe virtually everyone will go to some sort of heaven as long as they are not terrible people who commit serious crimes . Not so for the fundamentalists . For them , the only path to heaven is through Jesus . Like the woman in the cartoon , they are quick to condemn all other religions as false while generally refusing to critically

  • New Podcast is up, and so is our new store!

    Updated: 2010-08-11 22:58:32
    After taking a bit of time off, Ryan and I are back to recording the audio crack you all love, so come and get your fix! Also, our new store is up, so if you want to support us and you love the shirt, it’s available right now. What Would Jesus Wear? This fucking shirt, [...]

  • 2010 Election Will Be Important One

    Updated: 2010-08-11 14:15:00
    Home About Comment Policy Blogroll Store Mobile Disclosure Contact Me skip to main skip to sidebar August 11, 2010 2010 Election Will Be Important One Labels : Christian Extremism Politics 2010 Election Will Be Important One 2010-08-11T09:15:00-05:00 vjack Christian Extremism|Politics| Comments Midterm elections are not something most people find particularly exciting , but the next U.S . election could end up being a big deal . The political tone and competence of the nation could change considerably and for the worse The far-right teabaggers are looking to make a big splash with the likes of Sharron Angle Rand Paul and Marco Rubio And you know what that means , Christian extremists could make great strides toward consolidating even more . power Just ask Gov . Rick Perry R-TX what is at

  • The Good Atheist Podcast: Episode 102

    Updated: 2010-08-11 04:21:34
    After a week taking time off, we’re back and better than ever! This week, we talk about Prop 8 being “defeated”, why I’m addicted to gaming, and we chose your favorite and most hilarious quotes from the Bible. It’s an hour of fun you won’t want to miss. For those of you that wanted to listen [...]

  • Marketing Woo for Weight-Loss

    Updated: 2010-08-10 19:39:00
    Home About Comment Policy Blogroll Store Mobile Disclosure Contact Me skip to main skip to sidebar August 10, 2010 Marketing Woo for Weight-Loss Labels : Media Marketing Woo for Weight-Loss 2010-08-10T14:39:00-05:00 vjack Media| Comments CNN recently ran a story about religious believers turning to their god for help losing weight Instead of commenting on how ridiculous that sounds , I'm going to take another tact and suggest that this is pure genius . . Really Using the Lord's name not in vain fitness and diet enthusiasts are injecting the Almighty into nutrition programs , exercise DVDs , martial arts and healthy living . courses This is not about effective weight-loss it is a marketing strategy and an effective one at that . With all the Christians in the U.S . injecting Christianspeak

  • Strippers Protest Church

    Updated: 2010-08-09 20:25:00
    Home About Comment Policy Blogroll Store Mobile Disclosure Contact Me skip to main skip to sidebar August 9, 2010 Strippers Protest Church Labels : Society Strippers Protest Church 2010-08-09T15:25:00-05:00 vjack Society| Comments After being harassed by Christians wishing to impose their morality on others , the owner of an Ohio strip-club has decided to fight back in one of the best ways I can imagine . The strippers are protesting the church just like the Christians have been protesting the . club Pastor Bill Dunfee of New Beginnings Ministries has been trying to shut down the . strip-club Every weekend for the last four years , Dunfee and members of his ministry have stood watch over George's joint , taking up residence in the right of way with signs , video cameras and bullhorns in

  • Never Forget the Burden of Proof

    Updated: 2010-08-09 10:40:00
    Home About Comment Policy Blogroll Store Mobile Disclosure Contact Me skip to main skip to sidebar August 9, 2010 Never Forget the Burden of Proof Labels : Reason Never Forget the Burden of Proof 2010-08-09T05:40:00-05:00 vjack Reason| Comments Addressing the fascinating subject of Mormonism Craig James The Religion Virus reminds us that the central issue whenever matters of religious belief are involved is the burden of proof . We atheists have absolutely zero burden of proof . The burden lies with the believer . What James says of Mormons is true for all proponents of : religion Mormonism makes a staggering number of amazing claims that defy both common sense and the historical and archaeological records . It is up to the Mormons to prove that there is a reasonable , plausible

  • How to Share Atheist Revolution Posts

    Updated: 2010-08-08 13:48:00
    Home About Comment Policy Blogroll Store Mobile Disclosure Contact Me skip to main skip to sidebar August 8, 2010 How to Share Atheist Revolution Posts Labels : Blogging How to Share Atheist Revolution Posts 2010-08-08T08:48:00-05:00 vjack Blogging| Comments I have received a few questions lately from readers about how to share content from Atheist Revolution with others around the Internet . There are many ways to do this . For example , you can simply copy and paste the URL of the page you want to share into an email . But the easiest way for most people is to look for the What's Next box at the bottom of each post . It looks like : this The Email this post link will bring up an email form you can use to send the post to a friend . But the bookmark button will do even more . When you

  • Idiot of the Week: Jim Garlow

    Updated: 2010-08-07 11:44:00
    : Home About Comment Policy Blogroll Store Mobile Disclosure Contact Me skip to main skip to sidebar August 7, 2010 Idiot of the Week : Jim Garlow Labels : Bigotry Idiot of the Week Idiot of the Week : Jim Garlow 2010-08-07T06:44:00-05:00 vjack Bigotry|Idiot of the Week| Comments While those of us who believe that equality it an important American value were celebrating the district court ruling against Proposition 8, the forces of Christian extremism were spewing all manner of idiocy . This week's idiot is California pastor Jim Garlow , one of the organizers of the ProtectMarriage.com Yes on 8 campaign . Here is Garlow's analysis of the recent ruling in which Proposition 8 was determined to be : unconstitutional The next court case could conceivably say that if three people wanted to

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